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defska17
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PostPosted: 1/8/2002, 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ozzie is the only player selected into the HOF this year, making it in his first year. An amazing player that paved the way for the infielders of today that shine defensively greater then ever.
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Nate
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PostPosted: 1/8/2002, 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He definately deserves it, but there are people that didn't make it this year, that I think should have. But oh well, that's for another year I guess.
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PostPosted: 1/8/2002, 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Ozzie is deserving.

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PostPosted: 1/8/2002, 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to Ozzie.

I can't beleive gary Carter just missed it!!!

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PostPosted: 1/9/2002, 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe Carter was that close... does he even deserve to be that close?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cartega01.shtml

I guess he is somewhat deserving.

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PostPosted: 1/9/2002, 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats a cool website - you can look up any player?

yeah i was shocked gary carter was that close, missed by 11 votes, i dont consider him one of the "greats" of baseball. hell, i cant even really remember him at all. those stats dont help his case either... .262 BA, 324 career HR, averaged 86 RBI/year ...he is obviously not there for his batting. i guess his fielding stats are pretty solid though, and he was a catcher...???
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PostPosted: 1/9/2002, 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was a catcher for the Expos and Mets I belive. I don't know who else he played for.

I think he's deserving though... The best catcher in baseball at the time..

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PostPosted: 1/9/2002, 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it says he is most comparable to:

Johnny Bench (880) *
Lance Parrish (879)
Carlton Fisk (861) *
Yogi Berra (854) *
Ted Simmons (811)
Gabby Hartnett (790) *
Ron Cey (783)
Joe Torre (778)
Brian Downing (777)
Ron Santo (766)

So... maybe he should be in there.

And yeah, that site is awesome. You can all see how great Derek Jeter is on it.

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PostPosted: 1/9/2002, 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

his stats, for a catcher, are good. but i dont think you can let someone into the hall because of the position they play. he was a catcher, fine, but did he excel at what catchers are supposed to do best? i dont really know...
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PostPosted: 1/9/2002, 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had eleven all-star game appearances and 3 gold gloves. I think that is pretty good...

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