Leafs an Embarassment

Madbulgarian · Prospect

As Pierre Maguire one of Canada's renowned hockey guru's said the Toronto Maple Leaf's actions last night against Ottawa were disgusting, disgraceful and the team is an embarassment to hockey.

The officiating was actually quite good even though they missed a few more calls and were too lenient at times towards the Leafs.

We were at the game and it was shameful. No wonder the NHL is having a tough time in some markets trying to sell the game to American audiences.

Hopefully the league head office will step in and hand down sufficient punishment to put a stop to this nonsense..

ZR440 · Hall of Famer

What happened?

Madbulgarian · Prospect

Darcy Tucker and Tie Dummy went beserk Tucker charged the Senators bench and started swinging at the players on the bench, the Leaf players were taking penalty after penalty and they could have had a lot more,
Dummy with about a minute left to go in the game went after Ardvedson and hammered him for no reason at all, Pat Quinn the Leaf coach lied to the media and stated that Chris Neil spit at Tucker which is unbelievable because it didn't occur,, Gary Roberts was very apologetic after the game, Mats Sundin wished he was playing for a real hockey team,, The leafs including others like Svehla and McCabe behaved like trained goons..

Many Leaf fans at that game were very embarrassed by that display.

It was a dark day for the NHL and worse it displayed very clearly that the Leaf leaders like Sundin, Roberts and Mogilny have lost control of the goons on that team.

Keerist if this was the NBA or the NFL these players would be gone for the rest of the season and fined very heavily.

In short it was a disgrace and disgusting and worse there were a lot of children in the stands watching how some sorry excuse for adults behaved!!

LeaF · Top Prospect

You are blowing this out of proportion. Firstly not all the penalties taken were diserved, many were but some were rather weak. Secondly I don't think you are in any position to be saying what is "unbelieveable because it didn't occur" There are many facts the can never be known. Not to mention Toronto wasn't the only one out of control, I'll admitt they made some mistakes and some stupid penalities but Ottawa had their own faults. I specifically recall Alfredson trying to take a two handed swipe with his stick at domi, he is very lucky riecal held him back. Now I admit he may have been rightfully angry at Domi (this occured after the Averdson situation) but you don't go attacking someone like that ever, not to mention the fight had broken up and the ref clearly had domi. Now to the neil tucker thing. Don't give me the BS that Neil didn't do anything, more must have occured than just the hit to green. You don't see one player got after another when he is sitting on his bench for no reason, let me rmind you how badly he got beat by everyone, (including the trainer, now don't you think the trainer should have tried to brake it up?) Now I do think tucker handled it wrongly, but there is always more than meets the eye. Now as for Pat quin, he denied nothing, neither did accept anything. I remember him very clearly giving little comment on the situation.

Madbulgarian · Prospect

Colin Campbell suspended Tucker for five games and Dummi for three games for their goonish activities against Ottawa. They got off lightly!
They also got a stern warning! Next time get ready to go fishing and your paycheque is really going to be a small one!!

Some Leaf fans have difficulty at times accepting that they have goons on their team. Their Captain Mats Sundin was embarrassed during the post game interview and he knew that there was no spitting incident that caused this nonsense. Unfortunately some people lie when they get into trouble and a lie was used last night by Tucker and Coach Quinn. Sad Sad Sad!!

LeaF · Top Prospect

I never said I agreed with what Tucker and domi did last night, They certainly did not handle the situation properly, whatever the situation was, the response was uncalled for. I just felt you over exaggerated the situation and gave a poor repersentation of the team as a whole, thats all

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harrack52 · Prospect

I have to be on madbulgarian's side here. I saw what happened during the game as rds was showing it, and honestly, I don't even remember the last time a player hit another one with his glove on, that is just a cheap, cheap shot from Domi (dummy is quite a good name though as I never liked him). As for tucker.....spitting ? mmmmmmmmm.....maybe !
But !
Nothing's on his side, he's known to make stupid decisions when inside a hockey rink, just remember what he did to peca in the playoffs last year, and talking about leaders, roberts.....he is a leader, he is a great hockey player, but he can throw some pretty dirty hits if he wants to, jsut remember the isles/leafs series last year. Now how can you tell players not to play dirty when you are dirty yourself ?

I've said it quite a few times here if you consider the number of posts I made : the leafs are a dirty team, they are the dirtiest team in the league, Pat Quinn knows it, he built his team so they would be like that because he knows he can obtain his share of pts during the reg season, and when the playoffs start and the referees become invisible, all the "magic" comes into place for him and his team.
Quinn is known to protect his players, he's the least interesting coach to interview for a reporter, with comments like: "right now he's.....he's hurt !"
I have absolutely no difficulty in believing he lied to the media regarding what happened tuesday.

True, many many things happen on the ice which we will never know, but these things happen all the time, and some players deal with those things better than others.

I have always asked myself: "why is it that Brian Mccabe is so loved and still playing hockey ?"
The answer is: the rules are applied for his style of play !

Apply the rules by the book, always, everytime, all the time, and you'll see teams like the leafs and the bruins drop in the standings, although the bruins are not that high, Joe thornton is still a dirty player.

Right I'm a habs fan, but facts are facts.

ZR440 · Hall of Famer

Seen the replay last night. Pretty pathetic what Domi did. It used to be that one goon would challenge the other team's goon. Man, the fights that Bob Probert would get into. Wow. But now there aren't that many enforcers in the league and Domi is probably getting bored. He needs to retire because he has no class and is not a productive player at all.

LeaF · Top Prospect

What the heck are u talking about, not a productive player, Domi is setting a carrier high in goals and points this season and as for no class apart from last nighhts incident I honestly believe Domi is a very "honorable" tough guy. The reason for his anger the other night which u may have missed was that right off the draw arvedson speared Domi in the "Gonads", I can sympathize with domi's display last night a little for than I can with tucker's. This is not a recursive thing with domi, I don't ever remember him going after non-fighters before now, he sees no pride in it, I think he is very oldfashioned in that way.
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ZR440 · Hall of Famer

I will admit Domi is having a productive season....for once. But overall in his career he hasn't done much. He's just an enforcer. He gets paid for what his knuckles provide.

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